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| a1 | 00:00:00.001 | 00:00:30.700 | False start |
| a2 | 00:00:30.700 | 00:01:14.000 | Salutations and flattery to the investor audience |
| a3 | 00:01:14.000 | 00:02:33.000 | Dummy assistants of today |
| a4 | 00:02:33.000 | 00:02:57.716 | Computer world nightmare |
| a5 | 00:02:57.716 | 00:03:08.000 | Let's start over, let's clean the slate |
| a6 | 00:03:08.000 | 00:04:24.516 | Complexity and unreliability of current operating systems |
| a7 | 00:04:24.516 | 00:04:59.900 | Simplicity for whom : the idiot or power beginner ? |
| a8 | 00:04:59.900 | 00:06:34.300 | Designing imaginary constructs, not string based systems |
| a9 | 00:06:34.300 | 00:07:26.900 | The zigzag virtual machine for new users |
| a10 | 00:07:26.900 | 00:07:46.581 | Conclusion |
| a11 | 00:07:46.581 | 00:08:00.080 | Next speaker announce |
| a12 | 00:00:00.000 | 00:08:00.080 | speaker=Ted Nelson date=Thursday August 28th place=Nottingham, UK event=Panel "The Next Big Thing, Inc." at Hypertext'03 |
| a224 | 00:00:00.000 | 00:00:03.600 | ...my brain serving correctly, our next speaker is Ted Nelson |
| a225 | 00:00:13.000 | 00:00:14.800 | Ladies and gentlemen, |
| a226 | 00:00:14.800 | 00:00:16.800 | I'm very honoured to appear here. |
| a227 | 00:00:25.900 | 00:00:27.300 | ??? the time I'm on the light. |
| a228 | 00:00:30.700 | 00:00:33.500 | I'm very honoured to appear, |
| a229 | 00:00:33.500 | 00:00:35.000 | to have a chance to talk to this |
| a230 | 00:00:35.000 | 00:00:39.000 | distinguished group of investment bankers, |
| a231 | 00:00:39.000 | 00:00:40.900 | and I know how you must feel |
| a232 | 00:00:40.900 | 00:00:42.400 | after the dot.com crash. |
| a233 | 00:00:44.700 | 00:00:46.500 | The ones who made, |
| a234 | 00:00:46.500 | 00:00:48.200 | who made out well |
| a235 | 00:00:48.200 | 00:00:49.400 | are not here today |
| a236 | 00:00:53.100 | 00:00:53.700 | and of course, |
| a237 | 00:00:53.700 | 00:00:55.100 | the ones who lost everything |
| a238 | 00:00:55.100 | 00:00:57.100 | aren't either. |
| a239 | 00:00:57.100 | 00:00:59.800 | So you would be a group of the astute, |
| a240 | 00:01:01.800 | 00:01:03.300 | the far seing |
| a241 | 00:01:04.200 | 00:01:06.000 | who are able to understand |
| a242 | 00:01:06.700 | 00:01:08.000 | the concepts |
| a243 | 00:01:08.000 | 00:01:10.200 | I want to put before you. |
| a244 | 00:01:14.000 | 00:01:14.800 | A lot of talk, |
| a245 | 00:01:14.800 | 00:01:16.500 | there was a lot of tall talk, |
| a246 | 00:01:16.500 | 00:01:17.500 | in the late 90's |
| a247 | 00:01:17.500 | 00:01:20.600 | as the world's got bigger and bigger. |
| a248 | 00:01:21.400 | 00:01:23.600 | You heard (of?) all these wonderful tools |
| a249 | 00:01:23.600 | 00:01:25.200 | that were gonna help people |
| a250 | 00:01:25.200 | 00:01:26.700 | understand computers. |
| a251 | 00:01:26.700 | 00:01:30.100 | So we had talking paperclips. |
| a252 | 00:01:32.300 | 00:01:33.800 | For those to whom |
| a253 | 00:01:33.800 | 00:01:35.900 | the world wide web was too complicated |
| a254 | 00:01:35.900 | 00:01:37.900 | we had the Bonzi Buddy, |
| a255 | 00:01:37.900 | 00:01:38.600 | a gorilla, |
| a256 | 00:01:38.600 | 00:01:40.800 | a purple gorilla who would help you through |
| a257 | 00:01:40.800 | 00:01:42.500 | and stay on your browser. |
| a258 | 00:01:43.500 | 00:01:44.500 | And we have |
| a259 | 00:01:44.500 | 00:01:47.800 | the wonderful website askjeeves.com |
| a260 | 00:01:47.800 | 00:01:50.200 | which got I believe ten million |
| a261 | 00:01:50.200 | 00:01:52.900 | in first stage capital. |
| a262 | 00:01:55.000 | 00:01:55.900 | Jeeves says |
| a263 | 00:01:55.900 | 00:01:56.900 | as you got on the front page, |
| a264 | 00:01:56.900 | 00:01:58.500 | "ask me anything I know everything", |
| a265 | 00:01:58.500 | 00:02:01.200 | said "what is the population of Bulgaria ?". |
| a266 | 00:02:01.200 | 00:02:03.800 | "I know this about Bulgaria: |
| a267 | 00:02:03.800 | 00:02:05.800 | Bulgaria is a country". |
| a268 | 00:02:09.200 | 00:02:10.500 | And then a little list |
| a269 | 00:02:10.500 | 00:02:11.600 | distracts you from the fact |
| a270 | 00:02:11.600 | 00:02:13.300 | that it paid no attention to your question. |
| a271 | 00:02:15.500 | 00:02:17.200 | So we are seing, |
| a272 | 00:02:17.200 | 00:02:17.600 | we have seen |
| a273 | 00:02:17.600 | 00:02:22.200 | simultanously the dumb down of concepts |
| a274 | 00:02:22.200 | 00:02:24.500 | being offered to consumers, |
| a275 | 00:02:24.500 | 00:02:27.000 | and the escalation of idiocy |
| a276 | 00:02:27.000 | 00:02:30.200 | in the concepts being presented |
| a277 | 00:02:30.200 | 00:02:32.000 | to the likes of you. |
| a278 | 00:02:33.000 | 00:02:35.300 | So let's cut through this. |
| a279 | 00:02:35.700 | 00:02:37.700 | We have a computer world now |
| a280 | 00:02:37.700 | 00:02:40.700 | which has become a nightmare honky-tonk prison, |
| a281 | 00:02:41.700 | 00:02:44.200 | where fanfares and, |
| a282 | 00:02:44.200 | 00:02:45.900 | and pretty flashing lights |
| a283 | 00:02:45.900 | 00:02:47.100 | distract you from the fact |
| a284 | 00:02:47.100 | 00:02:48.600 | that everything is progressively |
| a285 | 00:02:48.600 | 00:02:49.500 | more complicated, |
| a286 | 00:02:49.500 | 00:02:51.900 | and you're being spied on on every site, |
| a287 | 00:02:51.900 | 00:02:53.900 | and nothing is available anymore, |
| a288 | 00:02:53.900 | 00:02:55.900 | and you have to sign up for everything. |
| a289 | 00:02:58.400 | 00:03:01.200 | I say : let's start over, |
| a290 | 00:03:02.900 | 00:03:04.400 | let's start over, |
| a291 | 00:03:04.400 | 00:03:06.100 | let's clean the slate. |
| a292 | 00:03:08.000 | 00:03:10.000 | Are you users of Windows ? |
| a293 | 00:03:10.000 | 00:03:12.500 | How are you doing on your backups ? |
| a294 | 00:03:14.700 | 00:03:17.200 | Have you had the machine halt |
| a295 | 00:03:17.200 | 00:03:19.400 | in the middle of backups by any chance ? |
| a296 | 00:03:20.600 | 00:03:23.000 | Have you lost any data ? |
| a297 | 00:03:23.000 | 00:03:25.200 | Have things disappeared |
| a298 | 00:03:25.200 | 00:03:26.600 | into strange parts |
| a299 | 00:03:26.600 | 00:03:29.200 | of your disk ? |
| a300 | 00:03:29.200 | 00:03:30.600 | And have you, have you had |
| a301 | 00:03:30.600 | 00:03:33.100 | to reinstall the operating system |
| a302 | 00:03:33.100 | 00:03:36.000 | and loose track of all your settings ? |
| a303 | 00:03:36.700 | 00:03:39.200 | Or are you a user of the Macintosh ? |
| a304 | 00:03:39.200 | 00:03:41.600 | Once so simple and unreliable. |
| a305 | 00:03:46.600 | 00:03:50.800 | Now rock solid and uncomprehensible ! |
| a306 | 00:03:51.700 | 00:03:53.500 | So the beginning user |
| a307 | 00:03:53.500 | 00:03:54.700 | puts something on the desktop, |
| a308 | 00:03:54.700 | 00:03:56.700 | "ok, now I file it inside, op", |
| a309 | 00:03:56.700 | 00:03:58.800 | and gets the full unix directory. |
| a310 | 00:04:00.200 | 00:04:01.400 | Right |
| a311 | 00:04:01.900 | 00:04:03.100 | How about Linux? |
| a312 | 00:04:03.100 | 00:04:04.200 | Oh that's great! |
| a313 | 00:04:04.200 | 00:04:07.200 | We have this wonderful command line interface |
| a314 | 00:04:07.200 | 00:04:08.400 | or we have the, |
| a315 | 00:04:08.400 | 00:04:11.100 | the gnome thing |
| a316 | 00:04:11.100 | 00:04:12.900 | with really nice |
| a317 | 00:04:12.900 | 00:04:14.600 | incomprehensible widgets |
| a318 | 00:04:14.600 | 00:04:16.200 | that were designed as a |
| a319 | 00:04:16.200 | 00:04:18.000 | dumbdown of the command line interface |
| a320 | 00:04:18.000 | 00:04:19.300 | as distinct from. |
| a321 | 00:04:20.300 | 00:04:22.900 | ...clarity |
| a322 | 00:04:24.900 | 00:04:25.900 | Everything is designed |
| a323 | 00:04:25.900 | 00:04:27.400 | either for people who |
| a324 | 00:04:27.400 | 00:04:29.000 | need to know too much, |
| a325 | 00:04:29.000 | 00:04:30.000 | or |
| a326 | 00:04:30.500 | 00:04:34.000 | for an imaginary stupid person. |
| a327 | 00:04:35.000 | 00:04:37.000 | So many people want design for |
| a328 | 00:04:37.000 | 00:04:38.000 | "the man in the street", |
| a329 | 00:04:38.000 | 00:04:39.400 | well, the man in the street |
| a330 | 00:04:39.400 | 00:04:40.500 | is lying on his back |
| a331 | 00:04:40.500 | 00:04:41.600 | with the bottle of a |
| a332 | 00:04:41.600 | 00:04:43.000 | weld?? Irish broom. |
| a333 | 00:04:47.000 | 00:04:49.800 | We need to design |
| a334 | 00:04:49.800 | 00:04:51.900 | for the intelligent |
| a335 | 00:04:51.900 | 00:04:53.800 | but clueless beginner; |
| a336 | 00:04:53.800 | 00:04:55.000 | and shall we say |
| a337 | 00:04:55.000 | 00:04:57.200 | "the power beginner". |
| a338 | 00:04:59.900 | 00:05:01.800 | We want to create a new computer world, |
| a339 | 00:05:01.800 | 00:05:02.400 | where |
| a340 | 00:05:02.400 | 00:05:04.100 | things are no harder |
| a341 | 00:05:04.100 | 00:05:04.800 | than they need to be, |
| a342 | 00:05:04.800 | 00:05:06.000 | and that's so difficult, |
| a343 | 00:05:06.000 | 00:05:08.300 | because the issue was never |
| a344 | 00:05:08.900 | 00:05:10.400 | electronics, |
| a345 | 00:05:10.400 | 00:05:12.100 | and was never |
| a346 | 00:05:12.100 | 00:05:14.400 | the inners of |
| a347 | 00:05:15.800 | 00:05:16.500 | complex operating systems, |
| a348 | 00:05:16.500 | 00:05:18.500 | the issue was always |
| a349 | 00:05:18.500 | 00:05:19.500 | (how much have I got) |
| a350 | 00:05:19.500 | 00:05:20.200 | You got two minutes |
| a351 | 00:05:20.200 | 00:05:22.200 | the issue was always |
| a352 | 00:05:22.200 | 00:05:22.800 | the design |
| a353 | 00:05:22.800 | 00:05:24.800 | of imaginary constructs. |
| a354 | 00:05:25.500 | 00:05:27.300 | You see, |
| a355 | 00:05:27.300 | 00:05:28.900 | science is supposed to be |
| a356 | 00:05:28.900 | 00:05:30.900 | about universals, |
| a357 | 00:05:30.900 | 00:05:33.500 | and yet computer science, I believe, |
| a358 | 00:05:33.500 | 00:05:35.400 | has become sidetracked |
| a359 | 00:05:35.400 | 00:05:37.300 | into the ramifications of tradition, |
| a360 | 00:05:38.800 | 00:05:40.300 | because |
| a361 | 00:05:40.300 | 00:05:42.400 | it's all about |
| a362 | 00:05:42.400 | 00:05:44.200 | computer languages |
| a363 | 00:05:44.200 | 00:05:45.200 | which are written |
| a364 | 00:05:45.200 | 00:05:46.100 | as long strings. |
| a365 | 00:05:46.800 | 00:05:48.300 | So, |
| a366 | 00:05:48.300 | 00:05:50.100 | you write a program as a long string, |
| a367 | 00:05:50.100 | 00:05:53.300 | and then you do string matching against the various variables |
| a368 | 00:05:53.300 | 00:05:54.600 | and the opcodes and so on, |
| a369 | 00:05:54.600 | 00:05:56.000 | and then that thing compiles |
| a370 | 00:05:56.000 | 00:05:57.000 | an executable. |
| a371 | 00:05:57.300 | 00:05:59.400 | So people go all off |
| a372 | 00:05:59.400 | 00:06:00.900 | into the |
| a373 | 00:06:00.900 | 00:06:01.900 | the consequences |
| a374 | 00:06:01.900 | 00:06:04.100 | of string parsing and syntax, |
| a375 | 00:06:04.100 | 00:06:06.500 | but the real issue is the complex executable, |
| a376 | 00:06:06.500 | 00:06:07.400 | making it understandable, |
| a377 | 00:06:07.400 | 00:06:09.200 | because computer languages |
| a378 | 00:06:09.200 | 00:06:10.400 | are about |
| a379 | 00:06:10.400 | 00:06:12.600 | the human mind's grasp |
| a380 | 00:06:12.600 | 00:06:14.400 | for the task to be done, |
| a381 | 00:06:14.400 | 00:06:15.700 | and maintaining it |
| a382 | 00:06:15.700 | 00:06:16.900 | through iterations |
| a383 | 00:06:16.900 | 00:06:18.500 | as you improve the program. |
| a384 | 00:06:18.900 | 00:06:21.100 | Ok, so the design, |
| a385 | 00:06:21.100 | 00:06:23.400 | so computer science has always been I believe |
| a386 | 00:06:23.400 | 00:06:24.000 | about |
| a387 | 00:06:24.000 | 00:06:25.800 | the design of imaginary constructs |
| a388 | 00:06:25.800 | 00:06:27.400 | and their ramifications. |
| a389 | 00:06:28.900 | 00:06:30.600 | But everybody thinks it's about reality, |
| a390 | 00:06:30.600 | 00:06:31.300 | and that's the mistake. |
| a391 | 00:06:31.300 | 00:06:32.100 | It's much more |
| a392 | 00:06:32.100 | 00:06:33.500 | like game design. |
| a393 | 00:06:34.300 | 00:06:35.800 | So the |
| a394 | 00:06:35.800 | 00:06:38.000 | game I am presenting to you, |
| a395 | 00:06:38.000 | 00:06:40.000 | the package let us say, |
| a396 | 00:06:40.000 | 00:06:41.800 | the zigzag virtual machine, |
| a397 | 00:06:41.800 | 00:06:42.900 | virtual interactive machine, |
| a398 | 00:06:42.900 | 00:06:44.900 | would be a cross platform |
| a399 | 00:06:44.900 | 00:06:46.800 | new user system. |
| a400 | 00:06:47.200 | 00:06:48.600 | The power beginner |
| a401 | 00:06:48.600 | 00:06:49.800 | can look at all the cells |
| a402 | 00:06:49.800 | 00:06:51.300 | and orthogonal connections, |
| a403 | 00:06:51.300 | 00:06:52.800 | the |
| a404 | 00:06:52.800 | 00:06:55.900 | relaxed beginner |
| a405 | 00:06:55.500 | 00:06:57.000 | can merely use the functions |
| a406 | 00:06:57.000 | 00:06:57.900 | "add relative", |
| a407 | 00:06:57.900 | 00:06:59.000 | "add appointment", |
| a408 | 00:06:59.000 | 00:06:59.600 | "deliver appointment", |
| a409 | 00:06:59.600 | 00:07:00.600 | "share appointment" |
| a410 | 00:07:00.600 | 00:07:01.600 | and making these, |
| a411 | 00:07:01.600 | 00:07:02.600 | and adding these |
| a412 | 00:07:02.600 | 00:07:04.800 | within the language of the system |
| a413 | 00:07:04.800 | 00:07:06.700 | so there's a unified package |
| a414 | 00:07:06.700 | 00:07:08.300 | you do not have to walk outside, |
| a415 | 00:07:08.300 | 00:07:09.800 | and it would be the same |
| a416 | 00:07:09.800 | 00:07:10.500 | running under linux, |
| a417 | 00:07:10.500 | 00:07:11.800 | and running under the macintosh, |
| a418 | 00:07:11.800 | 00:07:12.600 | and running |
| a419 | 00:07:12.600 | 00:07:13.700 | under windows, |
| a420 | 00:07:13.700 | 00:07:16.300 | by eschewing |
| a421 | 00:07:16.300 | 00:07:17.300 | the temptations |
| a422 | 00:07:17.300 | 00:07:18.900 | of each of these environments |
| a423 | 00:07:18.900 | 00:07:20.000 | and rather |
| a424 | 00:07:20.000 | 00:07:23.500 | creating a hermetically clean |
| a425 | 00:07:23.500 | 00:07:25.600 | internal world |
| a426 | 00:07:25.600 | 00:07:26.600 | we can start over. |
| a427 | 00:07:26.900 | 00:07:29.600 | So I offer to you |
| a428 | 00:07:29.600 | 00:07:31.000 | a simple new beginning, |
| a429 | 00:07:31.000 | 00:07:33.100 | a fresh start, |
| a430 | 00:07:33.100 | 00:07:34.500 | a sunny morning |
| a431 | 00:07:35.500 | 00:07:37.100 | after the hangover |
| a432 | 00:07:37.100 | 00:07:38.100 | nightmare |
| a433 | 00:07:38.100 | 00:07:39.800 | we have built today. |
| a434 | 00:01:26.700 | 00:01:30.100 | name=Talking Paperclip URL=http://entries.the5k.org/1126/ description=Clippy is paperclip eager to help you using Microsoft Office image=http://www.hazza316.co.uk/mrt/mrtvclippit/images/Clippit.gif altURL=http://www.hazza316.co.uk/mrt/mrtvclippit/TvCstart.htm |
| a435 | 00:01:32.299 | 00:01:42.600 | name=Bonzi Buddy URL=http://www.bonzi.com/bonzibuddy/bonzibuddyfreehom.asp description=Bonzi is a purple gorilla eager to help you surf the web image=http://images.bonzi.com/images/gorillatalk.gif |
| a436 | 00:01:43.500 | 00:02:13.600 | name=AskJeeves URL=http://www.ask.com/ description=Jeeves is a majordom eager to answer any of your questions image=http://sp.ask.com/i/j/aj7/jeeves_btm.gif |
| a438 | 00:03:08.000 | 00:03:36.315 | name=Microsoft Windows description=The most used operating system URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows |
| a439 | 00:03:36.700 | 00:04:01.515 | name=Mac OS X description=The most feline operating system URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X |
| a440 | 00:04:01.900 | 00:04:20.715 | name=Linux description=The most free operating system URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux |
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| a474 | 00:00:00.800 | 00:00:12.200 | Various hits near microphones |
| a475 | 00:00:21.256 | 00:00:22.856 | Squeaking |
| a476 | 00:01:01.475 | 00:01:05.975 | Footsteps |
| a477 | 00:01:10.300 | 00:01:12.300 | Caugh |
| a478 | 00:01:21.100 | 00:01:21.700 | Shock |
| a479 | 00:01:55.500 | 00:01:58.900 | Cup? |
| a480 | 00:02:10.800 | 00:02:14.900 | Caughs |
| a481 | 00:02:18.800 | 00:02:20.000 | squeaking |
| a491 | 00:07:53.980 | 00:07:59.000 | name=Peter J. Nürnberg URL=http://www.cs.aue.auc.dk/~pnuern/ |
| a493 | 00:00:25.455 | 00:00:43.855 | name=Peter Murray Rust URL=http://www.ch.cam.ac.uk/CUCL/staff/pm.html |
| a494 | 00:00:44.300 | 00:00:50.400 | name=Cathy Marshall URL=http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/~marshall/ |
| a495 | 00:01:18.700 | 00:01:18.800 | name=Ted Nelson (flashing version) URL=http://xanadu.com.au/ted/ |
| a496 | 00:01:32.299 | 00:01:40.898 | name=Paul De bra URL=http://www.win.tue.nl/~debra/ |
| a497 | 00:01:56.300 | 00:02:04.500 | name=Wendy Hall URL=http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~wh/ |